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Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies Podcast, the
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podcast where we talked about the blockbusters, the flops, and
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everything in between from one of the precious decades from movies,
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the nineteen eighties. Your host Bill Banton long be on
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his journey revisiting eighties movies. Is my co host Jason Maatsik.
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Hello, Jason, you want to know how to get capone?
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They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends
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one of yours to the hospital, You send one of
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his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way, and that's
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how you get capone.
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That's right. Listeners, we're discussing with spoils of plenty. The
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nineteen eighty seven gangster drama The Untouchables. It was produced
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by Art Linson and distributed by Paramount Pictures. The movie
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stars Kevin Gostner, Andy Garcia, Robert de Niro, and Sean Connery.
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Directed by Brian de Palma, this movie is rated R
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with a running time of one hour and fifty nine minutes.
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It was based on the nineteen fifty seven autobiographical memoir
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by Elliot Ness of the same name, and later became
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a television series which ran from nineteen fifty nine to
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nineteen sixty three. The movie was nominated for four Oscars,
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winning one. Nominees were for Best Art Direction, Set Direction,
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Best Costume Design, and Best Music Original Score. The win
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was for Best Actor in the Supporting role Sean Connery.
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So what is this movie about? What's on the box?
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If you grew up in the nineteen eighties and went
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to your local video store to read this movie, you
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would find this description on the back of the VHS box.
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It is What's on the box? Take it away, Jason.
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The critics and public agree. Brian De Palma's The Untouchables
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is a must see masterpiece, a glorious, fierce, larger than
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life depiction of the mob warlord who ruled Prohibition era
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Chicago and the law enforcement who vowed to bring him down.
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This classic confrontation between good and evil stars Kevin Costner
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as federal agent Elliot Ness, Robert de Niro as gangland
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kingpin al Capone, and Sean Connery as Malone, the cop
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who teaches Ness how to beat the mob, shoot fast,
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and shoot first, The Untouchables.
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The Untouchables. Wow, that was a quick uh.
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I'm used to these long ones, I know, short and
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sweet you tried to take a sip and whatever you're
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drinking over there, and you just didn't even have time.
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To do that. Wow, all right, The Untouchables. So that
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was what's on the box, Jason. You remember the first
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time you saw The Untouchables.
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I don't, Man, my memory has just been terrible for
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like the last ten movies I feel like we've covered.
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But I probably did see this in the theater. I
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had to have a US But I honestly don't remember
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the first time. But I can safely say I've seen
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it at least a dozen times, maybe more ever since.
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I always adored this film and one little memory I
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just wanted to share, and you can help me a
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little bit with this bill band. In college, of course,
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we befriended Marwan Abdurzak, who's been on this very podcast
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with us, and he worked for that company. Was it
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called Tinsley? Is that correct?
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Yep? Tinsley Advertising, right.
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And they helped promote was it Paramount or.
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Which, Yeah, it was Paramount, Okay.
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So he would give us these promotional like packets that
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were like, you know, promoting films coming out, the current films.
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But he also had gotten his hands on promotional packets
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for slightly older films, and he gave me one from
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The Untouchables and it contains the photo the quote unquote
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the photo from the movie with the group of the
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Untouchables sitting around the table. Man, I don't know why
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I don't have that framed and up on my wall
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right now. Just talking about this movie right now makes
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me want to do that. So I just wanted to
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share that I absolutely love that photo.
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Oh that is funny that you mentioned that, because that
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used to be a thing I would do, and I
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don't know how you were not in one of these photos.
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I would say, hey, let's do an Untouchables photo. I'd
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literally say that, and we would sitting around a table
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and Poe was like, we're Touchables. Absolutely, it's iconic. Man. Yeah,
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we did one for my wedding and sorry you were
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not there, but yeah, we did one in the bar
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and everybody's got the cigars and we're all standing along
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the bar and it's like the Untouchables. Everybody just makes
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a straight face. Yep, And that's what it is. And
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I have like two or three versions of that with
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different friends. But I was thinking about this on the
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drive to work today. I was like, how do I
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not have one with you? Pat, Chris, Marjuan, I mean
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we'd get together. Next time we all get together, we're
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gonna have to do it.
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Untouchables felt absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, Maybe one of our birthday
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get together is will do it at the Island?
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Sounds good? Yeah. So the first time I saw this
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was in the movie theater with three of my friends.
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I remember Daniel Day was one of them. I can't
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remember the other two. Sorry, sorry guys, So you just
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had the good memory, but I can't remember the other
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two people. I was to see this movie, and man,
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as soon as it started, I was certainly hooked into
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that one. So definitely rememberable first time seeing that movie.
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I think it was opening week. There you go. Heck yeah, man, yeah,
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my first time was in the movie theater. Very good.
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All right, so let's talk about the movie. What are
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our impressions of The Untouchables? Jason, what you got?
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Well, Bill Bant, this is what I gotta say. This
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movie's sexy all around. It's got big stars and Connery, Cossner,
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de Niro. We get introduced to Andy Garcia in this.
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It's capone, It's Chicago gangsters. It's Chicago in nineteen thirties
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Prohibition era. It's elliot Ness as a badass forming a
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special cadre or task force of officers to take down
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the big Bat. I mean, come on, what's not to
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like here? Even before watching this again, I was like
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I could see the whole movie in my mind, from
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beginning to end. How many scenes in this film are iconic.
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When I think of the Untouchables, I'm flooded with every
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single scene. I mentioned Garcia's intro we get capone with
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the bat, all Connery's quotes. There's some really emotional moments
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that are just a real bummer in this film, and
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a lot of I'm just thinking, there's a lot of
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smaller scenes that are just really memorable. Not to mention
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these big set pieces obviously, like the Canadian Mounties and
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the Untouchables charging the bridge on horseback, But I'm just
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going to save the rest for our favorite scenes segment.
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But needless to say, this is just one of the
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more memorable movies overall. And speaking of favorites, this is
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one of my favorite scores by Ennio Morricone. I owned
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this soundtrack on cassette, played it to death. I know
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it forward and backward, and also not to mention I'm
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a Chicago guy, of course, and this is one of
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the great Chicago movies. But for me, this movie completely
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holds up today. It's a banger from start to finish.
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I look forward to every scene. I watched it twice
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for this recording, and it was just as enjoyable on
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the second viewing. I mean, right from the start, the music,
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the Dunna Dunn, It's effing classic. What a great title
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card in the beginning, and then you see a credit,
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did you I didn't know the wardrobe was by Giorgio
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ARMANI fancy yep. So some thoughts right off the top.
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And when the movie starts, I mean, anytime a bad
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guy is getting a shave is always great tension.
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I love that.
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I was just thinking about the recent rebooted Roadhouse where
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it happens again. It's been done in a million movies.
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It's a great overhead shot at compone aka de Niro,
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because you're always afraid, like if the bad guy gets
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cut by the razor, he's just going to take out
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the barber. But of course he exercises restraint in this,
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so it's just a great start to the movie and
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then it just keeps rolling from there. I got a
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lot more to say, but I'm gonna let you jump
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in here.
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Man. This is definitely one of those movies from the
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eighties that they can release now. I don't think there's
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much that they need to change. Hmm. Yeah. I think
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the only other movie we've covered so far where I
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could say that was probably Raiders of the Lost Arc
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and Boz Them, probably because it's a period piece, sure,
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but sure it looks makes sense, fantastic. It still looks
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fantastic to me today. It still feels like it was
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nineteen thirty. Cogo and the costumes and just all that stuff.
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I just I love that and the cast, the four
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actors that they put together to form the Untouchables, love them,
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love them. I had no idea who any Garcia was,
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but right away I thought he was great. Charles Martin
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Smith is Oscar Wallace, a little comic relief in there. Yep.
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It was just fun watching him do his thing. Of course,
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Sean Connery, James Bond watch him in a different role,
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and he was just in charge of every scene that
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he was in. And Kevin Constner and I know a
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lot of people complained about Kevin Costner as being too vanilla,
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but I was like, that's who he's supposed to be.
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That's what I liked about him, and everyone just kind
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of played off him, and I really liked it. So
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just the casting of those four was just great, and
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then Robert de Niro would come in and do his thing,
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pop in throughout. Yeah, the music is awesome. Think about this.
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When I was watching the movie, I was like, did
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he only compose maybe like twenty minutes and then they
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just replayed that over and over, which I didn't care
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because the music's awesome and it's all over the place.
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It gets your heart pumping, and it makes your eyes
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well in moments. It's a really, really good score. I
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think it's an underrated score from the eighties. I don't
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think we talked about this one enough, and the fact
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that it was based on a book that was based
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on a television series definitely one of the better adaptions
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that we don't talk about, like, oh, you know movies.
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I mean, technically it's adapted from a book, but this one,
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from beginning to end, it's a good one. It really
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should be mentioned as one of the better films of
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the eighties.
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To me, I think a thousand percent. My friend, I
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was thinking the very same thing. I was just like,
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how is this not higher up on my all time
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eighties movies list? After watching it again? Now, I mean,
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it certainly is. And just going back to the actors
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here again, Andy Garcias, we just keep mentioning. You know,
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he had done did some TV work and he had
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a supporting role in eight Million Ways to Die with
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Jeff Bridges and Rosanna are kept playing a cocaine dealer
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with it this heavy Spanish accent. It's funny if you
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look up a little bit of his role in that
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from YouTube or whatnot, or in the trailer for that.
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But for me, I always considered this to be his
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breakout role. Most I think feel it's Godfather Part three
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Joey Sasa, But no, I think it's this. This is
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when I really I mean, he just commands when he's
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on screen. And so, yeah, Connery, you know what, we
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can talk about his accent.
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It's not Irish. Does it matter? I don't know.
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We talked about him in our Highlander episode as well,
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with the same issue. But he gets the Academy Award.
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I love him in this playing the mentor, the quote
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unquote tutor, the do gooder that ended up on the
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beat for years because he didn't succumb to the corruption.
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There's little things about his character. I love how he
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he also commands. I mean, obviously Connory has such a presence,
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but the little ticks he has with his character, which
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is so just drawn, where you know he kind of
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softly punches people in the arm or something like that,
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and you know how the first time elliot Ness goes
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to his apartment he approaches the door with a sowd
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off shotgun.
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There's just a lot of little, well detailed things with
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his character.
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I thought for a moment after my first watch, I
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was like, was he totally right for this? But then
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when I watched it again, I mean, no question, he
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looks fantastic and I think he has some real genuine
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moments in this. I've always thought he was a solid actor.
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Still do he plays the levels in this? And one
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thing that stood out to me Bill bann on this
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rewatch was the portrayal of his morality. It's a real
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through line as to how he's tested throughout. I mean
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we're really watching and watching him, watching and learning from
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Malone how to do the things that need to be
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done to take down to Capone, and it means having
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to cross a line, and he has a real difficulty
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with that, and we see how in the end does
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what it takes, obviously, but he's really having a battle
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with his own moral conscience. It was interesting as an
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adult to kind of watch that a little bit closer.
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Charles Martin Smith, as you said, he's fun man, He's
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just playing fun in this and it just makes it
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all the more tough. You well, I'll see for later.
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I just love the fact how he's really pushing the
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whole tax evasion thing throughout, like really trying to beaten
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Elliott Mess over the head with it, and Elliott finally
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kind of pays attention to him. But it's really kind
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of funny. De Niro is always intimidating to me. I
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mean that scene, it's another iconic scene. I mean, what's
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more intimidating than de Niro's Capone walking around the table
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with the baseball bat And you know what's going to
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happen if you've seen the movie. But it's just like,
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would you DeNiro walking behind you with a baseball bat?
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Kind of swinging around or tapping in his hand, whatever
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it might be. Uh no, thanks, cast is great. The
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direction Brian to Palman, I just wanted to talk about
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that for a second. This is our second film we're
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covering from him, first being blow out right, yeah, correct,
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and then he's directing this in between wise guys, and
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then Casualties of War comes after this. He definitely brings
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his unique style to this without question. It's the camera angles,
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it's the techniques, it's all the POV shots, the pacing,
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the building of tension. I love that split diopter shot.
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And the one we'll call out here right now is
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in you know where the opening quote comes from, of course,
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is the church scene between Malone and Ness where both
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the characters in the background and the foreground are in
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sharp focus, and that's the split diopter. It's a really
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cool effect and it works well, especially in that scene,
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So just calling that out. The writing by David Mammott
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obviously also a famous playwright, maybe most known for the
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play and film of Glengary Glenn Ross. I'm not sure
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if that would be his number one like claim to fame,
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but I felt his writing and his style gave this
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movie a real theatrical aspect, and I mean it feels
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at times like it's written for the theater, with characters
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coming in and out of rooms on Q, the musicality
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of Connery's delivery and moving around talking to different characters
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at times. A lot of the dialogue could be considered
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just you know, maybe on the service tough guy talk,
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whether it's the good guys or the bad guys. But
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the characters are again specifically drawn and really really entertaining.
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I actually really like the writing a lot. How'd you
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feel about both the direction and the writing? Brian de
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Palma just doing his Brian Obama thing.
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It's with the cool camera angles and all that stuff
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that you mentioned. If you didn't know this is directed
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by him and you knew his work, you would know.
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After ten minutes, I'm like, was this directed by Brian Palma? Oh? Yeah,
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it seems like him. And then what's the other part? Sorry?
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Oh yeah, just if you want the writing, yeah Mamott, Yeah, yeah,
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the writing. I mean, there's certainly a ton of liberties
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with the story on how they captured Compone. I mean
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it was through tax evasion, but it's exciting though. It's
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an exciting story. Everybody gets Time to Shine, with which
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I like, Yeah, I mean there's memorable dialogue that here
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we are almost forty years later and I'm still quoting
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this stuff.
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Heck, yeah that Actually I was going to ask in
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our additional Questions segment, but I'll just ask it to
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you now. You may have just answered it was Did
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that bother you at all? That this is basically a
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revised or alternate history of events because it is mostly
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fictional outside characters' names and a couple of things in
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the film. I didn't realize how much of it was
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fictional until doing a little more research for this pod.
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But I can tell you right up front doesn't bother
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me the least.
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This. Yeah, I think for me, it's it's like a
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case by case basism depending on what the movie is,
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because I don't think they're hiding anything and they're more
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just dramatizing, So that doesn't bother me. If they wrote
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stuff that like hide something about the characters so they
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it's going to put them in a bad light, that's
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when it kind of bothers me. But when it's just
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dramatizings to sit there to have a good time, I'm
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not going here for history. Lesson. I'm going here to
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be entertained. I'm not under that falsehood that this is
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a history lesson. All I know is there was a
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group that went after Compone and then got them on
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tax evasion. That's all I need to know.
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Right, Yeah, just a couple thoughts, final few thoughts. This
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made me really think about the Prohibition era, and I'll
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save that for later. It's kind of fascinating to me. Also,
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just a couple other things that stood out to me,
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just the pacing this film, the way that certain scenes
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are juxtaposed, in particular the scenes with elliot Ness versus
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al Capone. When you see al Capone doing something extremely
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violent and then it right very next scene it's elliot
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Ness with Patricia Clark, his wife in some very very
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like peaceful, serene scene, and it, you know, puts him
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in the really like this kind of heroic let you
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where you see he's just you know, trying to do
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what's right and protect his family, et cetera. So I
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like when they put those scenes back to back between
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caponea and elliot Ness and just going back to that,
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Like this movie just comes right out of the gate
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with bangers of scenes and another scene. The scene just
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I know, because we're not going to talk about it
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too much later, it's just the scene with the little
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girl getting blown up is absolutely brutal and seared into
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my mind forever.
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My son walked into that scene and he was like, Dad,
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does that Does that girl just blow up? I'm like, yep.
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It's like, oh my god, what are you watching? Podcast?
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Yeah, it's also it's always in my head. I can
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hear her, hey, miss Missta, wait wait, I forgot your briefcase.
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And then the way it's shot and the iconic just
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you can see the building in your mind's eye and
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under the under.
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The train tracks.
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It's just but that's I'm just mentioning that scene because
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it's one of one hundred in this that are amazing.
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So I had an absolute blast watching this Again, I'm
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glad we're talking about it.
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Speaking of this movie is very violent. It was definitely
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violent for that time for sure. Now it seems somewhat tame.
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But yeah, there's a lot of blood in this movie.
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For sure. We'll be talking about most of those scenes.
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But I remember being in the theater going geez, blood,
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blood and more blood, blood on windows, blood and elevators,
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blood on tables. Yeah, this is a very very violent movie. Yep,
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great point. And I do like this is a classic
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good guys first band guys. You have the Untouchables, then
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you have Copone's crew, and everyone's like everyone else is
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like in a gray era. You really know where the
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cops stand and all this. You don't you know even
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the citizens, because hey, they want to have their drinks,
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so they're gonna do what they can to get their
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hands on liquor. So I found that very interesting too.
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You definitely have a core group of good and a
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core group of bad, and everyone else is really in
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the middle.
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Yeah, it's not complicated. It's very easy to understand, and
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it's very easy to root for the good guys and
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against the bad guys. Good guys when you got Kevin Costner,
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who's basically the Knight in Shining Armor and just always
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trying to do the right thing. And then you got
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Copone on the other side, which is the extreme opposite,
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so lying through his teeth, having a lot of people
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get smashed over that.
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Yeah, Okay, let's move on to favorite scenes. What are
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some of your favorite scenes from the Untouchables? And I
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think Jason, you're starting us off, Yeah, I got a
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couple right off the bat for no pun intended.
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We'll start with Garcia's or should I say Giuseppe's intro.
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This is our introduction to Andy Garcia in the film,
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his character George Stone, which is an alias, and we
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find out, of course his real name is Giuseppe Petrie.
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But always love this, always look forward to it because
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Andy Garcia, a young, sharp looking, wide eyed Andy Garcia
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is all ready commanding. He's just got the gravitas and
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he makes you want to see what he's going to
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do next. And the fact that in the scene he
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actually matches Connery's energy and they obviously recruit him to
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be a member of the Untouchables because that shooting range
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scene is just one of the first things that pop
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into mind my mind because it was the first time
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I recognized Garcia and his total presence.
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Yeah, I love this scene too because the way it ends,
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where Connery's character Malone provokes George and he pulls the
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gun on him. He's like, perfect, let's take him. I
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like him. That's just like yeah, yeah, I guess yeah, okay,
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I like him too. He was just about to shoot you. Yeah,
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but yeah, I aggressive and Garcia right after this movie, Yeah,
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you want to.
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See what he does next. He's just so damn convincing.
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I'm actually uh, I have been watching him in land
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Man season two.
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That's going and.
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Still he's still got it. But moving on to my
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next scene, which I'm just calling it the successful Raid,
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this is a quick one. This is the Untouchables going
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into action and taking care of business. In this one
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moment led by Malone Connery's character, he knows where one
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of these underground illegal alcohol statues are and it happens
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to be right across the street from the police station
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at the post office. And my one of my favorite
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things about this is the leave the police precinct. It
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has the iconic shot of the Chicago Board of Trade building.
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I think it's La Salle Street if I'm not mistaken,
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and you just get any O Morricone's score, that sweeping,
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heroic score as the four of them are walking across
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the glass. It's just that glossy street and you get
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all the classic period cars parked along each side, the
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set dressing, the location, everything is like you just want
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to stand up and like let's go, come on, let's
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go kick ass and they do, and then they go
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in and raid I'm failing, My words are failing me
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at the stash house what do you call that where
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they're holding.
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All the liquor there? But yeah, yeah, the warehouse.
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Yeah, and Connery's got some great lines after he punches
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the the you know, the gangster that's running the show
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there in the stomach with his shotgun. I think he
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belts him in the stomach regardless, as you know, how
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do they how do you think he feels now better
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or worse?
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It's lines like that. I love in this from him, so.
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Yeah, heroic seeing it gets my blood pump in every time.
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Yeah, I love that. Here they are in the office
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and Malone it's like, okay, let's start this, let's get
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compone and they literally cross the street to do it.
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Right ed ness the whole time is like wait, wait,
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are you sure about this? Are you sure he's nervous
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because if he's already got a bad mark against him,
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and if he f's this up, he's probably done. And
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sure enough, right under the police noses. Yeah, clickers.
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Malone's got a great line too. This is also a
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great scene in the way where this is where there
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Malone makes this point clear is that there's no going
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back after this, So this is committing to the action.
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And he has that line, mister ness. Everybody knows where
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the booze is. The problem isn't finding it. The problem
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is who wants to cross Compone. There you go, and
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then we're really off after this scene. It's very theatrical
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on Triumphant. So that's kind of what I'm talking about
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with the writing too, about the very theatrical nature of it.
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So, oh yeah, what do you got next? I mean,
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this got me as a kid and it still gets
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me today. And that's Oscar Wallace's death. So Oscar Wallis
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is played by Charles Martin Smith and in the beginning
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of the movie we kind of he's like the nerdy
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type who's trying to get Compone through tax evasion, and
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they kind of thrust him into more of an action
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role and he steps up and there is a scene
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early in the movie and the border patrol we think
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he's going to die and he somehow survives it, so okay,
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he's untouchable. Nothing's going to happen. And he's supposed to
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escort this bookkeeper and he's in the elevator with which
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he thinks is a police officer and the bookkeeper, and
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the bookkeeper's like, you gotta protect me, you got to
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protect me. He's like, ah, I don't worry, don't worry,
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don't worry. And of course the police officer ends up
476
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being one of Compone's right hand man Eddie and turns
477
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.920
around and points a gun in his head, and you're like,
478
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:50.119
this isn't going to happen. Boom dead. I couldn't believe that,
479
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:51.880
you know. It's like, oh my god, the good guy's
480
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.920
dying sure enough alone and Ness get down to him
481
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.160
and he's hung up in the elevator and that was crushing.
482
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.759
That was crushing minut because it almost felt like he
483
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.440
was the least supporting of the four, but now his
484
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:06.680
death was very impactful.
485
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:08.720
If you want to be mad at this movie for
486
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.160
a reason, it's because they really set you up for
487
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.920
a fall here, and man, I fell when Wallace died
488
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.319
because they make him so. He's the feel good, like
489
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.000
you said, comic relief character. He's just kind of a
490
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.599
seems to be just a really upbeat dude with a
491
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.599
great disposition, is always smiling and he's chewing on his pipe.
492
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.039
Love the scene when he first comes into the office
493
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.440
with the books and he's wanted to talk to Ness
494
00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:34.880
about the tax evasion and they're getting ready to go
495
00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:37.640
on this raid with their shotguns and Malone walks over
496
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.119
to him says, you carry badge. He's like, yep, carry gun.
497
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:41.960
Just gives him the.
498
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.480
Shotgun and it's like okay, And he's still got the
499
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.319
pipe in his mouth the whole time, yep, going across
500
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:47.599
the street.
501
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.119
So then when he dies, it's like, no, you can't.
502
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.160
He's the Oh no, I loved him.
503
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.160
You just really really he's so likable and it's awful
504
00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:58.039
the way he goes on.
505
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.839
You called it super violence. Super violent?
506
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:07.160
No, definitely that when he shoots the uh the bookkeeper
507
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.839
or whatever that character is who is our haits that
508
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.359
actor from he was.
509
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.519
Her head set actor from a funny farm, right.
510
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:18.519
Yeah, yeah, it's it's awful. And then he actually hangs
511
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.640
Wallace up like on the clipboard by his jacket.51200:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.640
He somehow hangs him into the in the elevator and.51300:25:24.599 --> 00:25:28.359
The word in blood reads touchable. So it's great, but51400:25:28.440 --> 00:25:32.079
it's awful. Yeah, all right, I've got the next one.51500:25:32.079 --> 00:25:37.160
In this one I call an operatic death This also51600:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.279
is gut wrenching. May have seen this coming a little51700:25:40.319 --> 00:25:46.319
more than Wallace's death. However, this is wonderful cinematography and direction.51800:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.160
We've got a POV tracking shot. It's a one take51900:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.440
shot from the from the research.52000:25:52.480 --> 00:25:53.480
This is good. I like this.52100:25:53.519 --> 00:25:58.400
It's the peeping tom perspective of gangster who is breaking52200:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.880
into Connery or Malone's apartment and he's watching him from52300:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.920
the window, climbing along like the ledge outside the windows,52400:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.599
and then finally goes in and lures Connery out to52500:26:09.640 --> 00:26:14.039
that stoop out back and man every time like I'm52600:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.720
just every time, I'm like, oh no, don't go out there,52700:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.920
don't go out there. And of course that shot of52800:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.480
when he looks up in the realization that he's basically52900:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.240
been set up and Nitdi is standing on the staircase53000:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.440
and just blows him away with that Tommy gain. This53100:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.359
is the shit that is seared into my mind from53200:26:32.359 --> 00:26:35.079
this movie. The number of bullets that he gets hit53300:26:35.160 --> 00:26:39.759
with always, he gets hit in the chest, flips around,53400:26:39.839 --> 00:26:43.799
gets hit multiple times in the back, blood everywhere. So53500:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.960
this whole scene combined with then after he shot the53600:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.599
song I'm going I hope I don't butcher this, but53700:26:51.759 --> 00:26:57.720
vesti la giuba or giuba from Palliacci the opera, that53800:26:57.799 --> 00:27:02.079
particular song which is very famous is playing, and Capone53900:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.039
is at the theater and then he's got like tears54000:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.119
of joy when he hears the news from Nitty that54100:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.279
Malone has been taken out. Everything from this, the Malone54200:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.200
grabbing the train schedule, the emotional basically farewell from great54300:27:14.240 --> 00:27:18.119
emotional moment from Costner. But Garcia on his knees with54400:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.079
his head hanging down and he's like crying, Yeah, puts54500:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.599
his hand out to touch Malone's hand. It's awful, But54600:27:25.119 --> 00:27:29.720
really it's gut wrenching when Connor dies.54700:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.279
Because I remember when I saw in the movie and54800:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.839
after he gets shot and the cuts a Capone and54900:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.920
then they cut back to the apartment and Connor's crawing55000:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.920
against the floor. There was people in the theater grown like, oh,55100:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.359
come on, there's no way he survived. But then the55200:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.400
death scene, the theater was silent. You could hear a55300:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.359
pin drop, and then the what are you but bad55400:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.759
to do? That was tough. Yeah, I kind of turned55500:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.599
away from the screen for a little bit. Yeah, I55600:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.559
regard this is one of the iconic death scenes in cinema.55700:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.480
It's just no, definitely, and then just getting frustrated when55800:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.920
he's trying to tell Ness to get the train schedule.55900:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.599
It's like, you want this, you want this, like you56000:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.400
stupid son of a bitch, because you could tell you.56100:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.079
Like He's literally saved his final moments, his last breath56200:28:20.720 --> 00:28:24.119
to have enough energy to grab that train schedule, but56300:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.119
he barely gets it.56400:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.400
Yeah, speaking of training schedules, Definitely, one of the most56500:28:31.759 --> 00:28:36.839
iconic scenes of the movie is the gunfight on the steps,56600:28:37.319 --> 00:28:42.440
and this is pretty much taken from a battleship but Tanken,56700:28:42.759 --> 00:28:44.799
did you ever see that Jason find a chance? You know?56800:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.480
I want to say I did in film school, but56900:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.440
I couldn't tell you anything about it to be honest,57000:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.640
But I'll just say yeah that this Union State, the57100:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.880
Chicago Union Station shootout is this is the scene.57200:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.559
This is the scene from the movie I think most57300:28:59.599 --> 00:29:04.400
people identify with. Yeah. It's amazing because you have Costner57400:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.240
and George and they're trying to get to the train57500:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.279
station before the bookkeeper gets there so they can pick57600:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.359
him up and use his information to prosecute Compone because57700:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.160
they realize the only way they're going to get to57800:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.519
get him is through this tax evasion, and they're waiting.57900:29:19.200 --> 00:29:20.759
Ness is waiting at the top of the steps, and58000:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.000
this lady's pulling up the baby carriage and he goes58100:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.200
runs down help and by the time he gets up58200:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.359
to the top of the carriage there's components men. One58300:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.400
of them of course recognize Ness. Gunfight ensues and then58400:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.759
here goes the baby carriage. Boom boom, boom, boom boom.58500:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.440
Down the steps. People are shooting at the baby carriage.58600:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.720
Here comes Stone coming in. He's just picking everyone off58700:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.200
left and right, and then Stone slides stops the carriage.58800:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.559
The last of components Men as the bookkeeper's hostage, basically58900:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.119
tells Ness he's going to kill the bookkeeper or they're leaving,59000:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.480
one of those two alternatives, and then Boomstone shoots components59100:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.519
men right between the eyes and a scene so awesome.59200:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.920
If you watch Battleship the Tank and with this is59300:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.319
based on. It's a Russian movie. It's so much shot59400:30:04.319 --> 00:30:08.279
for shot, but it works for both, and it's so59500:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.000
much fun. And I was I couldn't believe when I59600:30:11.039 --> 00:30:12.559
saw this in film school. And this, of course, this59700:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.480
is after I saw this movie and I was like,59800:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.200
holy shit, it's the same thing. I gotta go back59900:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.359
and see it. Effect of though in this setting, it's60000:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.960
so much fun. Yeah, this is definitely one of the60100:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.400
best scenes from eighties movies. Yeah, I would say, yeah,60200:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.319
I would definitely say top ten act scenes without it60300:30:30.480 --> 00:30:35.720
eighties movies without a doubt. It's just really really well crafted.60400:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.920
I love the conflicting music in the beginning with the60500:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.640
lullaby in the background. Oh yes, and then you have60600:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.160
Marconi's score a little bit more, you know, foreboding in60700:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.400
the foreground. All the different players, whether it's the navy60800:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.400
guy or the suspicious character wearing the suit who then60900:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.079
is just met by his girlfriend and walks off. There's61000:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.119
so many different players in this and you just you61100:30:58.200 --> 00:31:02.119
called it all out, but it's all it's using all61200:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.880
film techniques, all film techniques to build tension, and depaulm61300:31:05.960 --> 00:31:07.920
is a master at it. It's the pacing, it's the61400:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.240
vertigo shots looking downward, the editing, the time constraint when61500:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.599
you keep hearing the announcement of the train is going61600:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.000
to be leaving at twelve oh five I believe or61700:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.799
whatever it is. So there's just you're anticipating the entire time,61800:31:22.319 --> 00:31:27.640
the slow motion. But come on, it's Garcia, it's George Stone.61900:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.240
Ji Setie is such a badass in this man. When62000:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.559
he comes riding around the Glarner double fisted with the62100:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.640
little snubnosed pistols and just tosses one to Nests and62200:31:35.640 --> 00:31:39.119
then being the marksman that he is, talk about another62300:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.480
really violent scene because when what he's the bad guy's62400:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.920
counting to three, right, and on two he barely opens62500:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.119
his mouth and Stone puts a bullet right through him.62600:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.920
M And you get that blood splatter on the back62700:31:54.160 --> 00:32:01.359
and that great music in the background, and you're just like, damn, yeah.62800:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.559
Yeah, just that look that Stone is giving compone Sky,62900:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.680
just waiting for Ness to just say just shoot shoot63000:32:09.079 --> 00:32:11.599
m hm. And he knows as soon as Nest says it,63100:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.559
I got him. That's awesome. And then he finishes it off.63200:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.079
He actually finishes the count right, he's about because the63300:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.400
bad guy's about to say two, but one of them does.63400:32:19.480 --> 00:32:19.680
Yeah.63500:32:19.759 --> 00:32:26.759
Stone then goes two after he shoots him. Yeah, thank63600:32:26.799 --> 00:32:28.720
you for saying that. That's what that's what you should63700:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.359
That's a scene you study in class.63800:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.359
Yeah, for sure, definitely uh. And finally, for me, another63900:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.920
famous scene or or even moment, what I would say64000:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.599
scene too, is when Ness realizes that Nitty is the64100:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.559
one that killed Malone and they had the rooftop chase.64200:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.680
There's two moments that I really like. There's one when64300:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.799
we think Ness falls off the roof and Nitty goes64400:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.880
to check and Ness shoots him but hits his hat64500:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.880
and the way he just flies back and flops and64600:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.000
then gets up and starts running again, and then he64700:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.640
tries to escape and Ness catches him and Ness is64800:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.519
going to escort him back, and Nitty is just playing64900:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.440
with him like, oh yeah, I'm alone. It's like a65000:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.160
pig when I killed him and you think Ness is65100:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.279
a good guys. He's going to take him, just arrest65200:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.720
him like he's supposed to, and just tosses him off65300:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.559
the roof and goes, does he sound like that? And65400:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.000
then he lands in the car and that stone later65500:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.599
the Nitty I left him in the car and it's65600:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.680
just awesome, and you just see his dead body all65700:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.359
smashed up in the car. It's like awesome when Nitty's65800:33:29.359 --> 00:33:30.799
body just hits that car.65900:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.519
Yeah, and the fall off the roof isn't bad actually,66000:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.400
and there's just that they had to do the one66100:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.559
close up that looked bad with the special effects.66200:33:39.559 --> 00:33:40.480
But outside of that.66300:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.519
It was a pretty good, pretty well filmed stunt and66400:33:43.519 --> 00:33:48.400
and pretty well edited great chase across the rooftops. Nitty66500:33:48.440 --> 00:33:52.519
is a real bad dude. Another memorable quote screamed like66600:33:52.519 --> 00:33:53.680
a stuck Irish pig.66700:33:54.440 --> 00:33:55.279
It's awful.66800:33:56.039 --> 00:34:01.119
And this is the time when Ness finally he crosses66900:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.079
the line. He's been pushed too far and this guy67000:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.519
needs to go down, and he really goes down.67100:34:08.480 --> 00:34:16.559
Yeah, okay, moving on to swiss cheese and complaints apartments67200:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.639
and what do we call it swiss cheese? Because although67300:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.360
this movie is delicious, it does have Tommy gun holes. Yeah,67400:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.599
so it doesn't have any of those Tommy gun holes.67500:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.519
We just file a complaint. What's a complaints apartment? So, Jason,67600:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.039
do you have anything for swiss cheese or complaints?67700:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.320
I got a few, uh kind of like questions.67800:34:34.400 --> 00:34:34.639
Yeah.67900:34:34.719 --> 00:34:42.320
Yeah. After the very first raid gone wrong, when Ness68000:34:42.400 --> 00:34:48.440
gets oh yes, okay, he has his photo taken by68100:34:48.599 --> 00:34:54.880
you know, reporter photographer and then is skulking on the68200:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.679
bridge where we are then introduced to Malone. They have68300:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.679
a scene together on the bridge, but he's already got68400:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.079
the newspaper with the photo of him failing in the68500:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.719
headline of the raid gone wrong, that was a failure.68600:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.840
I was like, how did that already? How is it68700:35:09.840 --> 00:35:10.679
published already?68800:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.199
It seemed like that was the night of the same68900:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.880
night of the raid. I didn't He says, I'm alone69000:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.400
that he had a really rough day, and I got69100:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.360
a little confused as to how that paper came out69200:35:21.360 --> 00:35:21.880
so quickly.69300:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.760
I'm assuming it's the next day. Yeah, I mean, yeah,69400:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.519
I guess it has to be. And he had to69500:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.760
explain all that all day long, like what the hell69600:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.199
went wrong? Yeah? But yeah, I think my question is,69700:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.159
like they make such a big deal about the informant69800:35:36.239 --> 00:35:40.519
and then Ness says, don't touch the informant, but once69900:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.719
you still want to arrest him, just to kind of70000:35:43.159 --> 00:35:44.079
keep up with the act.70100:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.679
I had that written down to before. I don't know70200:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.920
why I didn't have it here thousand percent? What was70300:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.559
the deal with the informant? Bad intel? And was he70400:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.239
I'm assuming then that Capone's people got to him first70500:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.440
or got it. How to interrogate the inform You gotta70600:36:01.440 --> 00:36:02.079
find that guy?70700:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.440
Yeah, At that point, the guy would know like, oh,70800:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.559
we've been set up, or he's been set up and70900:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.360
it's not liquor. I guess compose the whole thing is71000:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.639
just just embarrass him and he'll go skulking home. But71100:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.119
that's not the case. Yeah, go ahead. I mean, it's71200:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.480
one of my favorite scenes that I mentioned. But you know,71300:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.480
with Oscar Wallace's desk, how did Nitty find time to71400:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.880
write and touchables or touchables and blood? Right? I want71500:36:25.880 --> 00:36:26.559
to get out of there.71600:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.760
Yeah, he put in some work there, and he did71700:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.000
take him a lot more time than it took for71800:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.760
Ness and Malone to get down there and get into71900:36:34.760 --> 00:36:35.239
the elevator.72000:36:35.320 --> 00:36:35.760
Yeah.72100:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.519
Yeah, I hear you on that one. For sure, effective72200:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.920
but maybe not quite realistic.72300:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.559
Right because there's two cops waiting down at the elevator.72400:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.480
Malone and Ness hear that gunshot, so they're on their72500:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.320
way down. Yeah, I don't think i'd be taking time72600:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.960
to And it's not little print, it's big. Oh yeah,72700:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.639
two foot tall letters all across the elevator for sure.72800:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.719
Good call, man, good call. I question.72900:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.719
We we love Oscar Oscar Wallace. Now during the Canadian73000:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.400
Mounty scene when they take over the shipment of Canadian whiskey.73100:37:12.079 --> 00:37:12.639
On the bridge.73200:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.199
Do we This is where just gets a little maybe73300:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.079
a little far fetched for me. Did you buy the73400:37:18.119 --> 00:37:22.960
fact Wallace takes out more cronies than anybody else? He like,73500:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.880
shoots at least three guys with his shotgun and takes73600:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.639
out the fourth by knocking him out with the butt73700:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.199
of his shotgun. I was like, I don't know if73800:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.360
Oscar Wallace was quite capable enough to take out all73900:37:34.400 --> 00:37:34.880
those guys.74000:37:34.880 --> 00:37:39.199
I don't know how you felt about that. He's been trained, Okay.74100:37:39.719 --> 00:37:44.039
I always loved that because the least likely of the74200:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.719
four was able to pull that off. I mean, most74300:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.400
of it was fear and some of it was probably74400:37:48.440 --> 00:37:49.800
just training instinct.74500:37:50.519 --> 00:37:54.079
Yeah, as an accountant with the Bureau. He I mean,74600:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.039
he's with the Bureau. He had to have some training74700:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.400
at some point. Yeah, I mean, okay, See that's why74800:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.199
I've just formed it was just a question uestion.74900:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.079
No, it's okay. It bothers you, that's fine, didn't bother me.75000:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.679
Sense during the Union Station shootout, that gangster that takes75100:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.360
the bookkeeper hostage and starts moving up the staircase to75200:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.920
the exit, here's a question for you, But why doesn't75300:38:14.920 --> 00:38:18.599
he just continue moving up the staircase. He's got the75400:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.440
bookkeeper hostage at gunpoint, he stops.75500:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.360
That's a good question. I have no idea, you know75600:38:24.360 --> 00:38:25.679
what I mean, Like, what is he what is he75700:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.320
trying to negotiate? Just get out of there. Yeah, it's75800:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.360
your typical bad guy telling the good guys what your75900:38:31.400 --> 00:38:32.079
plan is and.76000:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.599
Yeah, right, monologuing or something. Yeah, did you have more?76100:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.239
I just have two more quick ones.76200:38:38.239 --> 00:38:39.599
I know we're only supposed to have a few, but76300:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.360
they're very quick. This is my big one. This is76400:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.000
kind of disappointing, all right. So we have Elliotts and76500:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.199
we have Copone. There's very few scenes of the two76600:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.239
of them together. Base of the one, the staircase, and76700:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.760
then in the courtroom, and then at the very end,76800:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.079
when pretty much we know Capone's going to jail and76900:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.079
Ness makes his way over to talk to him, I'm77000:38:58.119 --> 00:39:02.920
thinking for some big dialogue moment, and then he drops77100:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.000
that never stop fighting until the fight is I'm like, really,77200:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.559
all these great lines in the movie, and that's what77300:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.239
we dropped with the conclusion of the nes Capone saga. Yep, yeah,77400:39:16.239 --> 00:39:18.079
I was really bummed with that. That didn't do it77500:39:18.119 --> 00:39:18.639
for me at all.77600:39:19.480 --> 00:39:24.000
Never stop, never stop fighting until the fight is done here. Okay,77700:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.639
it didn't work for you. That is weak sauce, gotcha. Okay,77800:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.199
didn't bother me as much. But I can understand your77900:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.079
point of view there for sure. They don't have many78000:39:33.079 --> 00:39:39.039
scenes together, really, Okay, that the big climactic moment for78100:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.719
the two of them, a little of a letdown, kind78200:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.320
of takes the air out a little bit. Yeah, okay,78300:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.000
all right, here's one for you. The photo, the iconic78400:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.679
photo we talked about at the top, a photo that's78500:39:51.719 --> 00:39:53.239
taken in the middle of the movie is not the78600:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.519
same movie photo we see at the end of the movie.78700:39:55.760 --> 00:39:57.760
Oh yeah, it's just weird to me.78800:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.840
I don't know why they did that, because it's clear78900:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.000
as in the middle of the movie, what the the79000:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.920
you know, we see a freeze frame of the photo itself,79100:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.400
and at the end, I'm like, that's not the same picture.79200:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.559
I mean, it's the four of them sitting together, but79300:40:09.599 --> 00:40:13.360
they're in like a slightly different I forget, I apologize.79400:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.639
I don't know specifically why. I just know it's different79500:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.800
because it looks if they're one's expression is different. I79600:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.639
don't know if their hands are placed in different places,79700:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.480
but it's just different.79800:40:21.800 --> 00:40:26.000
It's weird. It'd be funny if they lost the one, like, ah,79900:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.239
all right, we're gonna shoot another one. Do you remember80000:40:28.239 --> 00:40:33.119
where you guys were sitting? I love it, I love it. Yeah,80100:40:34.639 --> 00:40:35.320
two copies.80200:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.280
This is my last quick one. Did you think that80300:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.519
after Frank Nitty's situation outside the court room at the80400:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.480
end when he shoots the officer, you know, he gets80500:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.320
dragged out of the cart and shoots the officer and80600:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.679
then the whole thing goes down obviously between Ness and80700:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.280
Nitty on the rooftop your favorite scene. Wouldn't the trial80800:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.039
be paused at that point when they're just been a80900:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.639
shooting outside? Do they continue that?81000:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.360
Yeah? You would think they would have to clear the courts. Yeah,81100:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.920
there's a gunfight in the building. Everyone's got to get out,81200:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.840
shut everything down. Yeah, it seems so weird when that81300:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.119
the bailiffs gets shot in the way, he's just like,81400:41:15.239 --> 00:41:18.519
take my gun. Such a weird line delivery.81500:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.480
Yeah, yeah, it's a real quick, weird moment. Well that's81600:41:22.480 --> 00:41:23.039
all I got.81700:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.239
Let's move on to Hey it's that actor all right.81800:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.159
So in this segment with spotlight a character actor you81900:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.639
have seen in many other films, an actor making their82000:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.079
big screen debut. Who an actor makes an uncredit cameo,82100:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.280
it's hey, it's that actor. Who do we choose this week?82200:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.719
This week we choose four Hour Hats That actor Don82300:41:43.000 --> 00:41:48.679
Harvey as Officer Prazuski. He was one of the Flying Squad.82400:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.440
It's near the beginning of the film, right before the82500:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.519
the raid that is a giant failure for Elliott. Ness82600:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.400
Ness gets into the car with Prazuski and they have82700:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.920
a little conversation and basically Prazuski is just replying yes, sir, yes, sir,82800:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.719
yes sir. But Ness asks him if he's married and82900:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.039
makes a comment like it's it's nice to be married.83000:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.360
But I recognize that actor's face right away. He's very83100:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.199
young in this. He is an American character actor from Michigan.83200:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.960
Here's his eighties. This is gonna be quick. He did83300:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.679
a couple episodes of soap operas early on. He did83400:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.760
After School Special in eighty five, had a role in83500:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.440
Creep Show two in eighty seven, does this in eighty83600:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.679
seven as well? Then now wait for it. He played83700:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.440
the role of Alan Beeks in an episode of Miami Vice.83800:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.840
This was season four, episode seventeen. The name of the83900:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.400
episode was hell Hath No Fury. That was in nineteen84000:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.559
eighty eight. He plays the role of Swede Risburg in84100:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.280
Eight Men Out in eighty eight, then plays the role84200:42:44.320 --> 00:42:48.320
of another DePalma film after this, Casualties of War in84300:42:48.360 --> 00:42:52.639
eighty nine. But I think I actually know him best84400:42:53.079 --> 00:42:57.519
as the bad guy named Garber from Diehard two. He84500:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.360
has the line near the beginning when he puts is84600:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.719
the TV camera out of the way, He puts his84700:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.320
hand on it, and forgive my language here, listeners, but84800:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.400
his quote is no pictures, you pinko bitch?84900:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.360
Do you remember that character? I don't know.85000:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.079
That just seems to be a memorable moment from that film.85100:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.440
That's what I know our guy Don Harvey from. But85200:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.920
other notables after Yeah, we're already into the nineties and85300:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.400
so on and so forth here. But he's in Hudson Hawk,85400:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.840
Tank Girl. He's been a ton of episodic TV. Just85500:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.719
look him up. He was in Taken three. In recent years,85600:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.840
he was an episode of Lethal Weapon, the TV series.85700:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.559
He was an episode of Yellowstone, a couple episodes of85800:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.159
Better Call Saul. He plays Anthony Pellicano in a couple85900:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.440
episodes of the TV mini series Pam and Tommy. Don86000:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.119
Harvey still Working Today recognized him right away.86100:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.039
When they did the lineup. When Nes goes to see them,86200:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.239
he stood out, yeah, good, oh for sure. Wait second, yeah,86300:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.119
there he is in the in the cor scene. And86400:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.159
then as soon as you started mentioning all those movies,86500:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.519
I saw him in everything that you were talking about, saying,86600:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.079
oh yeah, oh yeah. Let's move on to facts and trivia.86700:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.239
What are some facts and trivia we have about the Untouchables.86800:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.239
Well, we talked about Oscar. We're going to talk about86900:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.239
him a little more. The character of the IRS agent87000:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.679
Oscar Wallace was partially based on Frank J. Wilson, the87100:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.039
IRS criminal investigator who spent years keeping tabs on copone's87200:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.119
financial dealings before laying charges. Unlike Wallace, Wilson was not87300:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.280
killed during the investigation and was later involved in the87400:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.000
Lindberg kidnapping case.87500:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.599
Interesting. So, Andy Garcia was originally considered for the Frank87600:44:29.719 --> 00:44:33.920
Nitty role, but he insisted on reading for George Stone instead.87700:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.000
Good move, mister Garcia, yueh, no kidding.87800:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.000
We were talking about de Niro of course, and let's87900:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.719
continue on with some casting trivia. Robert d Niro was88000:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.920
Dipalma's first choice to play al Capone, but it was88100:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.480
uncertain if he could appear in the film because of88200:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.400
his appearance in the Broadway play Cuba and His Teddy Bear.88300:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.920
He also wanted to gain about thirty pounds to play Capone,88400:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.880
and according to DiPalma, Daniro was very concerned about the88500:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.559
shape of his face for the part. Di Palma then88600:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.480
met with with Bob Hoskins to discuss the role in88700:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.960
case Daniro could not appear. When de Niro took the part,88800:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.000
de Palma mailed Hoskins a check for I Think It's88900:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.079
twenty thousand pounds with a thank you note, which prompted89000:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.760
Hoskins to call up to Palma and ask him if89100:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.639
there are any more films he didn't want him to89200:45:17.639 --> 00:45:17.880
be in.89300:45:18.119 --> 00:45:22.519
I love that. Yeah, So the Great Union Station Shootout.89400:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.280
So the baby in the character of the train is89500:45:25.320 --> 00:45:29.480
the film stunt coordinator's son stunt quarter named Gary Hymes,89600:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.639
and the sun is Colin. Yeah. It was eighteen months wow.89700:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.840
As mentioned earlier, While the film is based on historic events,89800:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.000
most of the film is fictionalized are inaccurate. The raid89900:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.920
at the Canada United States border never happened, neither did90000:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.079
the courthouse or railway station shootouts. Ness did not kill90100:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.800
Frank Nitty, who died in nineteen forty three, twelve years90200:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.760
after the Capone trial, by suicide, the day before Nitty90300:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.480
himself was scheduled to be in court. In reality, Ness's90400:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.360
unit had very little to do with Capone's final tax90500:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.599
evasion conviction, which was orchestrated by US attorney George E. Q.90600:46:04.840 --> 00:46:09.760
Johnson and IRS agent Frank J. Wilson, aforementioned who inspired90700:46:09.800 --> 00:46:11.920
the character of Oscar Wallace as I said, but was90800:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.159
never actually a part of the Untouchables.90900:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.719
In the original script, the final gunfight had Elliot Nass91000:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.239
and George Stone battling Compone's gunman on a stop train.91100:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.039
Brian to Palma conceived the gunfight on the steps of91200:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.440
Chicago's Union Station when Paramount decided that staging the scene91300:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.360
and finding a nineteen thirties period train would be too expensive.91400:46:32.119 --> 00:46:33.920
That sometimes would costs to actually save you.91500:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.440
It was reported on July second of two thousand and91600:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.119
four that Antoine Fuquah would direct an Untouchable spin off91700:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.480
titled The Untouchables Mother's Day, which was later changed to91800:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.880
Capone Rising. The film script, which was written by Brian91900:46:49.960 --> 00:46:55.320
Koppelman and David Levian, with later revisions by David Robe92000:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.960
or Rob excuse me if I mispronounced that, focused on92100:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.719
the rise of Chicago mob Kingpin K in the years92200:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.159
before the Encounter with Ness and his Lawman and June92300:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.880
of the following year, original director Brian de Palma replaced92400:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.159
Fuquah on the film. According to DiPalma, the film went92500:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.639
into development several times, with Nicholas Cage, Gerard Butler, and92600:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.360
Benicio del Toro all attached to play Capone at different stages.92700:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.000
M I don't think I want to see that one. Yeah,92800:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.960
I don't know how that would have worked, yea. So92900:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.079
Albert H. Woolfe, the last survivor of the real life Untouchables,93000:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.920
was a consultant on this movie and helped Kevin Costner93100:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.920
with his portrayal of Elliot Ness. Cool. Let's move on93200:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.400
to box office. So The Untouchables hit theaters on June third,93300:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.199
nineteen eighty seven, opening in oneenty twelve screens nation wide.93400:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.840
Made an estimated budget of twenty five million dollars The93500:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.679
film went on to earn seventy six point two million93600:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.719
at the North American box office. When it debuted, the93700:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.639
movie landed in the number two spot, behind Beverly Hills93800:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.000
Cop two. Even with that tough competition to Untouchable stayed93900:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.280
in the top ten for another five weeks. By the94000:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.760
end of its theatrical run, it ranked as the sixth94100:48:03.920 --> 00:48:08.360
highest grossing movie of nineteen eighty seven. Interestingly enough, both94200:48:08.360 --> 00:48:12.360
The Untouchables and Moonstruck finished the year in the top ten,94300:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.639
even though neither movie reached number one at the box office.94400:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.239
Moving on to reviews. When growing up in the eighties,94500:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.199
we would watch at the movies with Gene Siskell and94600:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.639
Roger Eber to hear their reviews and watch clips of94700:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.320
upcoming movies. Their review of The Untouchables was split. Roger94800:48:27.400 --> 00:48:31.360
called it a respectable film that lacks the fire, the passion,94900:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.760
and even the humor we might expect from this material.95000:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.519
Jeene thought it was one of the best gangster movies95100:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.239
he had seen in a long time. They both enjoyed95200:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.079
Sean Connery's performance in the movie. Rotten Tomatoes gives it95300:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.880
a Tomatometers score of eighty three percent, with a Popcorn95400:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.519
Meter score of eighty nine percent. It also has an95500:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.840
IMDb rating of seven point nine. So this takes us95600:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.599
two additional thoughts and questions. What are some additional thoughts95700:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.719
and questions we have about the untouchables?95800:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.440
Well thought I had was just the general idea of prohibition.95900:49:01.519 --> 00:49:03.920
I you know, I of course knew of it, and96000:49:04.039 --> 00:49:05.519
I just didn't know a lot about it. So I96100:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.400
just looked it up real quick on Wikipedia, and it's96200:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.440
just crazy the fact that this was a real thing96300:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.840
for thirteen years. Man In our history, the Prohibition era96400:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.239
was from the period of nineteen twenty nineteen thirty three,96500:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.840
when the US prohibited the production, importation, transportation, and sale96600:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.239
of alcoholic beverages. The alcoholic industry was curtailed by a96700:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.440
succession of state legislatures, and prohibition was formally introduced nationwide96800:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.920
under the Eighteenth Amendment, ratified on January sixteenth, nineteen nineteen.96900:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.280
Prohibition ended with the ratification of the twenty first Amendment,97000:49:36.360 --> 00:49:40.719
which repealed the Eighteenth Amendment. In nineteen thirty three, a97100:49:40.800 --> 00:49:46.679
wide coalition composed of mostly Protestants prohibitionists first attempted to97200:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.000
end the trade in alcoholic drinks during the nineteenth century.97300:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.320
They aimed to heal what they saw as an ill97400:49:53.360 --> 00:49:58.199
society beset by alcohol related problems such as alcoholism, domestic violence,97500:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.599
and saloon based political corruption.97600:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.119
And here's something interesting that I found about this too,97700:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.039
because throughout the movie, we see Malone have a drink,97800:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.840
we see Oscar have a drink, and you're like, ooh,97900:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.079
they're breaking lag even totally. Ness tells the police do98000:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.880
not take a drink. That actually was not illegal. You98100:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.840
could drink as long as yours if you had alcohol98200:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.280
when this band started, you could still drink it. You98300:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.880
just couldn't buy it, sell it, or manufacture it. So98400:50:24.920 --> 00:50:27.360
whatever you had left you could finish, right, So what98500:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.159
they were doing was not illegal. Huh. There you go.98600:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.800
Anything else on thoughts and questions.98700:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.079
I just because I spoke a couple of times on98800:50:35.159 --> 00:50:39.400
the theatrical theatricality of this movie. I know this might98900:50:39.880 --> 00:50:42.119
sound out of left field, but I could see this99000:50:42.360 --> 00:50:46.760
as a theater production in musical form actually, and I99100:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.199
think it could be pretty cool. And I'm surprised that99200:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.440
I did not see that in the research, that it99300:50:53.480 --> 00:50:57.519
hadn't even been entertained as such. But I just think99400:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.519
with Mammett's style, and obviously he is a playwright. It99500:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.239
could be done, maybe not necessarily as a musical.99600:51:04.639 --> 00:51:09.559
Yes, a musical Coon Capone, let's go get copon, we99700:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.000
won't do it a love worthy Untouchables love it perfect?99800:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.639
That's it sold. Yeah, I could see it being a play.99900:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.800
Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah, let's go with that. It'd be100000:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.039
interesting mull it over thinking about it.100100:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.559
But that's uh. I think that's pretty much all I got.100200:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.639
We covered my other thoughts and questions earlier.100300:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.159
All right, Yeah, I don't think I really have anything100400:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.480
else for additional thoughts and questions. Jumping in rating already? Well,100500:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.880
I know that seemed real quick, isn't it. Yeah, it100600:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.920
is all right, So let's move on to our rating. So,100700:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.039
on a scale of one to five police badges, what100800:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.039
do you give the Untouchables? Like?100900:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.199
After just talking about this and I feel like this101000:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.039
has just gone by way too fast. I feel like101100:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.119
we could talk about this movie for days, probably just101200:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.119
go through every single scene. This is up there, man,101300:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.880
I'm going between four point five and five. I just101400:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.159
don't know what to do here, because is it is101500:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.159
it perfect? It's pretty pretty close to being one of101600:52:03.159 --> 00:52:05.519
the all time greats. I'm going for it. I'm going101700:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.039
with five five badges, man, police badges, all the badges.101800:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.360
I'm giving it all. I freaking love this movie. I101900:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.679
just from beginning to end. I mean, it's just under102000:52:13.719 --> 00:52:18.199
two hours. It's got so many iconic moments. I love102100:52:18.239 --> 00:52:22.280
all the performances. Say what you will about Connerie's accent.102200:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.199
It just I think is is is it?102300:52:27.559 --> 00:52:27.760
Yeah?102400:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.360
What else can you say? Any Morricone score, The action102500:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.280
is great. It's just so well shot and interesting to102600:52:36.400 --> 00:52:37.559
watch at all times.102700:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.519
It moves me. It's got a lot of levels.102800:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.719
I'm emotional at different points and real highs and lows102900:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.440
where I literally want to just jump up to that103000:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.079
sweeping score by Morricone.103100:52:47.199 --> 00:52:48.960
And and you know, let's.103200:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.599
Go the set dressing the way it you know, Chicago103300:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.039
looks in this film. I just there's really no downside103400:52:56.039 --> 00:53:00.440
to the Untouchables. It's an exhilarating movie and good guys103500:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.400
winning the end. I'm happy that's true, good versus evil,103600:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.360
and the good guys do win at the end. I'm103700:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.920
giving this four and a half badges. Yes, the music103800:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.079
is great. Our Untouchables are great. DeNiro, I don't know103900:53:12.119 --> 00:53:13.079
he he kind of.104000:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.480
I don't know. For some reason, he felt like it104100:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.800
was in a different movie. At some points, you just104200:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.119
feel I felt so separate. Yeah, it did feel like, hey,104300:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.360
we have him for three days, let's just shoot his104400:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.639
scenes and get him out of here, right, And then104500:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.440
it was just that whole final confrontation thing. But this104600:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.639
is a guy's guy movie. For great point, this is104700:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.679
if you have a man cave, this poster should be104800:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.079
down in your room. This movie certainly needs to be104900:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.960
part of your collection. I really like Kevin Costerers betraying this.105000:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.400
I know you know he was getting beat up, but105100:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.320
I think it works. I just like all four of105200:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.719
the Untouchable characters, and some great actions have pieces. It's105300:53:54.760 --> 00:53:58.159
a lot of fun. It should be spoken out more105400:53:58.280 --> 00:54:02.599
as fun action movies from the abies. And yes, it105500:54:02.719 --> 00:54:06.840
is one of the least historical movies that will probably105600:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.760
cover that's supposed to be based on actual facts. It's105700:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.719
just that doesn't bother me for this one. I don't105800:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.440
know why. I do enjoy it a lot. It definitely105900:54:16.440 --> 00:54:20.519
deserves its high accolades. I don't know what Roger Ebert106000:54:20.559 --> 00:54:20.960
was watching.106100:54:22.519 --> 00:54:27.199
Yeah, not sure either. Not entirely agreement there with Roger.106200:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.320
Yeah, yeah, you can't get them all right. Yeah, he's106300:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.239
entitled to his opinion too, exactly. So that wraps up106400:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.119
for the Streek's episode. Thank you so much for hanging106500:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.079
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